let's bring in some of our favorite experts, doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host and both are fox news contributors. five days to go, this thing is so tight. if people aren't talking about sandy they're talking about who they think will win this thing. quick initial thought from you both and then i want to cruise through some of these polls. doug, where do we stand? >> oh, i think we are suggest that we're in a tie. the swing state data showing ever so slight obama lead, within the margin of error. ohio couple points up. through the midwest, wisconsin, michigan, minnesota, a couple points up, a couple points up in pennsylvania. ever so slight obama lead there. but it could go either way. martha: monica? >> yeah. what is interesting we're seeing the traditional tightening of a race as we get closer and closer to election day. what is interesting that independent number you put you, martha, governor romney still has a very healthy lead among independents and doug mentioned the swing states, when you look at critical swing states